thats the advantage of swapping to another frame, I have something to referance to make sure I dont stuff up (In theory anyway)
Fangs "new" toy!!
Going piccy and post crazy now!!
Donor bike
"adapted" Frame
Its quite handy actually cos I can look at the donor frame and see in advance what needs to but removed and what doesn't, would be miffed if I got her all together only to find I need an extra bracket tacked on some where!!!
Hoping the garage is acceptably "lived in" enough for ya Stig
Laters
Donor bike
"adapted" Frame
Its quite handy actually cos I can look at the donor frame and see in advance what needs to but removed and what doesn't, would be miffed if I got her all together only to find I need an extra bracket tacked on some where!!!
Hoping the garage is acceptably "lived in" enough for ya Stig
Laters
Never Ever Bloody Anything Ever!!!
didnt want you to forget and the mount wasnt that obvious from the frame images
Garage looking OK there mister...mines nearly organized...keep doing a bit when I get time. Shes currently got me decorating
Although, i managed to make a mess of the cutting in this afternoon and got a bollocking for it. Got to leave it alone and to my better half from now on ...thats a shame 
(no it wasn't done on purpose 
)
I've actually been to get some oil & filter ready to get the bike out, had my leathers repaired, got all my bits sorted ready to fit when it comes out its winter bag...then i may even ride it to the end of the drive....and back!
Garage looking OK there mister...mines nearly organized...keep doing a bit when I get time. Shes currently got me decorating
Although, i managed to make a mess of the cutting in this afternoon and got a bollocking for it. Got to leave it alone and to my better half from now on ...thats a shame (no it wasn't done on purpose )I've actually been to get some oil & filter ready to get the bike out, had my leathers repaired, got all my bits sorted ready to fit when it comes out its winter bag...then i may even ride it to the end of the drive....and back!
AKA Bald headed b'stard
Another nice day here in Norfolk so I thought I'd tackle the rear brace issue.
After much pondering I hatched a plan.
Out came the bathtub frame again and the required parts aquired
The general idea was to mount the brace as simply as possible, with the minimum number of parts and thus avoid too many potential problems with multiple welds/angles and all the fun that can throw up.
so something like this
After much test fitting/altering/grinding I ended up with this ready to tack
Drilled and tapped seat unit mounting points to hold it in place (better than rubber bands) to make sure the rear brace will line up right
So welding done, test fitting to make sure I didn't cock it up.
Whilst I was faffing about ( working, I call it) my wife took a few pics!!!
After trimming off the excess metal work and the original brace
With everything fitted there is plenty of space to mount relays and CDI
And the rear seat cover even lines up underneath as well
So there we have it, a bit more done
Next I think I'll tackle the rear seat hump mounting issue although there's plenty of other things too choose from!!!!
PS, do let me know if there are too many pics, I just get carried away
After much pondering I hatched a plan.
Out came the bathtub frame again and the required parts aquired
The general idea was to mount the brace as simply as possible, with the minimum number of parts and thus avoid too many potential problems with multiple welds/angles and all the fun that can throw up.
so something like this
After much test fitting/altering/grinding I ended up with this ready to tack
Drilled and tapped seat unit mounting points to hold it in place (better than rubber bands) to make sure the rear brace will line up right
So welding done, test fitting to make sure I didn't cock it up.
Whilst I was faffing about ( working, I call it) my wife took a few pics!!!
After trimming off the excess metal work and the original brace
With everything fitted there is plenty of space to mount relays and CDI
And the rear seat cover even lines up underneath as well
So there we have it, a bit more done
Next I think I'll tackle the rear seat hump mounting issue although there's plenty of other things too choose from!!!!
PS, do let me know if there are too many pics, I just get carried away
Never Ever Bloody Anything Ever!!!
Hopefully, we'll see how it looks oncne its a rolling chassis, a way to go before we get to that stage, and going on the performance upto know that'll be about 3 years off!!!Stig wrote:Bike coming on wellMakes a hell of a difference to the overall appearance of the machine...lots more modern
Never Ever Bloody Anything Ever!!!
Not much to show for todays effort, had the day off work so set about attaching the seat hump.
After severals cups of tea and many varying plans I had a final solution.
Using an old FZR seat and subframe for parts I set to it.
First thing was to attach some box section to mimic the R6 subframe drilled with 13mm holes that the cover locates into.
about an hour and a half was spent just getting these in the right place, body work on, clamp box section, place cover in place, check alignment, move clamps check again, etc etc.
once these were tacked in, i made a loop for the back of the cover to latch under and tacked that in place, again about an hour to do with all the checking etc.
removed the latch mechanism fromthe FZR seat, cut it down to size, and welded that in.
Excellent, then it dawned on me, If I ever send the frame pff to cut powder coated I cant remove the latch, therefore it too will be powder coated making it useless.
Obviously I planned this, so told myself that all was OK, and that this was all just too get the catch in its final position so I could attach brackets between this and the frame.
So brackets were cut off the old FZR subframe altered and attached to the latch using the existing holes and tacked to the subby, including a release arm.
once this was done I had to cut the welded bits off by hand as there was no room to wield a grinder!!
makeshift release cable fitted,
So it took all day but the seat hump now fits securely, can be removed easilyand theres plenty of space under the seat hump as the catches are to either side leaving the centre clear for access, all I need now is a lock so I can attach the mechanism properly, but thats a finishing touch in the grand scheme of things.
Next job is number plate mount I think.
After severals cups of tea and many varying plans I had a final solution.
Using an old FZR seat and subframe for parts I set to it.
First thing was to attach some box section to mimic the R6 subframe drilled with 13mm holes that the cover locates into.
about an hour and a half was spent just getting these in the right place, body work on, clamp box section, place cover in place, check alignment, move clamps check again, etc etc.
once these were tacked in, i made a loop for the back of the cover to latch under and tacked that in place, again about an hour to do with all the checking etc.
removed the latch mechanism fromthe FZR seat, cut it down to size, and welded that in.
Excellent, then it dawned on me, If I ever send the frame pff to cut powder coated I cant remove the latch, therefore it too will be powder coated making it useless.
Obviously I planned this, so told myself that all was OK, and that this was all just too get the catch in its final position so I could attach brackets between this and the frame.
So brackets were cut off the old FZR subframe altered and attached to the latch using the existing holes and tacked to the subby, including a release arm.
once this was done I had to cut the welded bits off by hand as there was no room to wield a grinder!!
makeshift release cable fitted,
So it took all day but the seat hump now fits securely, can be removed easilyand theres plenty of space under the seat hump as the catches are to either side leaving the centre clear for access, all I need now is a lock so I can attach the mechanism properly, but thats a finishing touch in the grand scheme of things.
Next job is number plate mount I think.
Never Ever Bloody Anything Ever!!!
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Another day, another update, as mentioned yesterday I thought I'd tackle the number plate mount today.
AND YES I WILL MAKE SURE ITS STRAIGHT
The idea was to attach it to the cross brace with bolts so as to make removing the tail unit simple.
The problem being the unit slots into itself at the rear light end, therefore making it akward to fit as its "hinged" at one end, not a top and bottom that are bolted together, so the two halves have to by pryed open enough to feed it over the sub frame.
This can be done at the moment but a welded on number plate mount would prevent this.
So started with a cardboard template to see what I could come up with.
I was going to make it out of Ally but didnt have anything thick enough, and seeing as the actual "tail tidy" underneath the bodywork may have to be legthened to avoid the plate hitting the rear wheel, theres going to be a fair amount of force exerted through it.
Then I remembered that I had purchased a tail tidy on Ebay about a year ago when I was amassing parts
Its doesn't extend far enough rearwards for me but its made from stainless, plenty strong enough,and has 6mm threaded inserts in it so it can be bolted from inside the subby.
So, with a little alteration,why not turn it upside down and use this as the mount inside the subframe.
So back to my box of offcuts to look for suitable donor items, went for a nice couple of 8mm lugs with a vintage of around 86 , should compliment the overall appearance nicely
Drilling the mounting holes in the stainless was a bastard, but easier with the pillar drill than trying to do it with a hand drill.
Must invest in a proper drill clamp...
Brackets cut, holes drilled, all fingers still attached, welded in place
Next up was the removal of the headlight bracket and the addition of lock stops as the Exup bottom yoke's stops are in a different place to the FZ.
This is with the forks touching the rad, as you can see, nowhere near the stops.
about 11mm extra needed
So back to my bucket of lopped off parts, and a suitably thick piece of metal selected
Just doing my bit to recycle
Headlight mount off, smoothed down, lock stops added, wider than needed but I can adjust (grind down) them once the Rad and forks are fitted.
And that is all the frame fabrication done, as far as I can see, obviusly I will need to add the odd bracket for relays etc, but wont know where these have to go until I get to that stage.
So I got the soapy water out and gave the frame a clean, if its warm enough tomorrow I'll give it a quick coat of paint over the bare metal for protection as I cant see it being powder coated this year.
So jobs for tomorrow are, paint frame, change fork seals (had them 2 Years) and maybe start swapping front and back end over, just a rough fit as I will want to change headbearings etc, but you know how it is!!!!
As I'm sure, like me, your all fed up seeing a naked frame, unless it has tits of course!!
PS i forgot to take pics of the rear seat hump bracketry yesterday so here's a couple today, as you know I love pictures!!!
AND YES I WILL MAKE SURE ITS STRAIGHT
The idea was to attach it to the cross brace with bolts so as to make removing the tail unit simple.
The problem being the unit slots into itself at the rear light end, therefore making it akward to fit as its "hinged" at one end, not a top and bottom that are bolted together, so the two halves have to by pryed open enough to feed it over the sub frame.
This can be done at the moment but a welded on number plate mount would prevent this.
So started with a cardboard template to see what I could come up with.
I was going to make it out of Ally but didnt have anything thick enough, and seeing as the actual "tail tidy" underneath the bodywork may have to be legthened to avoid the plate hitting the rear wheel, theres going to be a fair amount of force exerted through it.
Then I remembered that I had purchased a tail tidy on Ebay about a year ago when I was amassing parts
Its doesn't extend far enough rearwards for me but its made from stainless, plenty strong enough,and has 6mm threaded inserts in it so it can be bolted from inside the subby.
So, with a little alteration,why not turn it upside down and use this as the mount inside the subframe.
So back to my box of offcuts to look for suitable donor items, went for a nice couple of 8mm lugs with a vintage of around 86 , should compliment the overall appearance nicely
Drilling the mounting holes in the stainless was a bastard, but easier with the pillar drill than trying to do it with a hand drill.
Must invest in a proper drill clamp...
Brackets cut, holes drilled, all fingers still attached, welded in place
Next up was the removal of the headlight bracket and the addition of lock stops as the Exup bottom yoke's stops are in a different place to the FZ.
This is with the forks touching the rad, as you can see, nowhere near the stops.
about 11mm extra needed
So back to my bucket of lopped off parts, and a suitably thick piece of metal selected
Just doing my bit to recycle
Headlight mount off, smoothed down, lock stops added, wider than needed but I can adjust (grind down) them once the Rad and forks are fitted.
And that is all the frame fabrication done, as far as I can see, obviusly I will need to add the odd bracket for relays etc, but wont know where these have to go until I get to that stage.
So I got the soapy water out and gave the frame a clean, if its warm enough tomorrow I'll give it a quick coat of paint over the bare metal for protection as I cant see it being powder coated this year.
So jobs for tomorrow are, paint frame, change fork seals (had them 2 Years) and maybe start swapping front and back end over, just a rough fit as I will want to change headbearings etc, but you know how it is!!!!
As I'm sure, like me, your all fed up seeing a naked frame, unless it has tits of course!!
PS i forgot to take pics of the rear seat hump bracketry yesterday so here's a couple today, as you know I love pictures!!!
Never Ever Bloody Anything Ever!!!