Not reving above 2k when hot

The place to come to share your technical expertise, or just find out what the little springy thing is that's just pinged out of sight under the work-bench.
rexeriot
Brolly Dolly
Brolly Dolly
Posts: 26
Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:04 pm

Not reving above 2k when hot

Post by rexeriot »

Hi all. I've had my 89 Fzr1000 Exup for 4 years . I've been riding the bike with the Exup valve fully open for 2 years. The only issue I had was bogging down under 4k when hot and pulling away on a hill. This summer that has suddenly got a lot worse . Then one day is was so bad it wouldn't rev above 2k or idle . Once it cools down it's ok but as soon as it gets hot and you are below 4k the problems start again. I thought maybe the valve had moved but it hasn't. I'm baffled because the bike is becoming un ridable . Above 4 k and riding at speed is absolutely fine . Can anyone help ? Something has obviously happened but I cant figure out where. Thanks
I always stick to the speed limits. Its just that the ones in our area they seem to have missed all the " 0's " off the end.
User avatar
Teego
More Rabbit Than Sainsbury's
More Rabbit Than Sainsbury's
Posts: 2518
Joined: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:48 am
Location: On the road again. Distance is the drug.

Post by Teego »

Toobs?
Keep on keepin' on.
rexeriot
Brolly Dolly
Brolly Dolly
Posts: 26
Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:04 pm

Post by rexeriot »

Toobs ?? Not sure I understand .
I always stick to the speed limits. Its just that the ones in our area they seem to have missed all the " 0's " off the end.
User avatar
Stig
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 11786
Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:54 am
Location: Searching for my bike

Post by Stig »

Worn emulsion Toobs in the carbs

http://www.exup1000.co.uk/tech_info_are ... ntoobs.htm

Or check coils aren't breaking down as they get hot
AKA Bald headed b'stard
rexeriot
Brolly Dolly
Brolly Dolly
Posts: 26
Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:04 pm

Post by rexeriot »

Thanks for that. Coils are ok as the bike is always running on 4 when I have the problems. I guess the toobs start sticking when they get worn ?
I always stick to the speed limits. Its just that the ones in our area they seem to have missed all the " 0's " off the end.
User avatar
Teego
More Rabbit Than Sainsbury's
More Rabbit Than Sainsbury's
Posts: 2518
Joined: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:48 am
Location: On the road again. Distance is the drug.

Post by Teego »

rexeriot wrote:Thanks for that. Coils are ok as the bike is always running on 4 when I have the problems. I guess the toobs start sticking when they get worn ?
Toobs start flooding the motor at lower revs when worn. It's an easy fix if you follow our how-to guide. Actually, take your time and it's very therapeutic.
Keep on keepin' on.
User avatar
pilninggas
Lap Record Holder
Lap Record Holder
Posts: 492
Joined: Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:58 pm
Location: West Beirut

Post by pilninggas »

+1.

It gives you back the motor as it should be. Those jets dont half wear out and knacker the fuel.

Replace them toobs.
rexeriot
Brolly Dolly
Brolly Dolly
Posts: 26
Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:04 pm

Post by rexeriot »

Wheres the best place to buy them ? Thanks
I always stick to the speed limits. Its just that the ones in our area they seem to have missed all the " 0's " off the end.
User avatar
YAMAEXUP
Commentary Team
Commentary Team
Posts: 948
Joined: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:13 pm
Location: NW Kent

Post by YAMAEXUP »

I would've said...hold on a moment. I'd better not incriminate myself.... I wouldn't want anyone to end up in court

When were the valve clearances last checked?
Bikes-they're in the blood.


www.blood.co.uk
User avatar
YAMAEXUP
Commentary Team
Commentary Team
Posts: 948
Joined: Wed Dec 09, 2009 10:13 pm
Location: NW Kent

Post by YAMAEXUP »

Also, check the internal resistor elements inside of the plug caps. One of them went open circuit while on a rideout. Then 2 of the original plug caps split along the seam & the coil output jumped to the engine. New NGK plug caps resolved that situation, in my case
Bikes-they're in the blood.


www.blood.co.uk
rexeriot
Brolly Dolly
Brolly Dolly
Posts: 26
Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:04 pm

Post by rexeriot »

Hi. I took the carbs off...... which , I believe , have never been removed. The inlet rubber clamps were in such a position that you could only reach one with a screw driver so the carbs had to have been fitted to the engine before it went into the frame . Every screw on the carbs were untouched and the only way of getting the bowl screws out was to drill.

Anyway I believe my problem is the carb tops . 3 are cracked and not sitting flush to the carb. Guess air is getting in ....would this cause my symptoms . The toobs look perfect .
I always stick to the speed limits. Its just that the ones in our area they seem to have missed all the " 0's " off the end.
rexeriot
Brolly Dolly
Brolly Dolly
Posts: 26
Joined: Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:04 pm

Post by rexeriot »

Hi . The bike had only done 25k miles . I will do that test and see. The cabs were very mucky inside and the inlet rubbers also had splits in them . The diaphragms were fine . Jets were clear. The tubes are out of stock at Allen's. Any idea where I can get carb tops from ? Thanks
I always stick to the speed limits. Its just that the ones in our area they seem to have missed all the " 0's " off the end.
User avatar
two-stroke-brit
Pit Crew
Pit Crew
Posts: 112
Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2018 4:39 pm
Location: TEXAS USA

Post by two-stroke-brit »

rexeriot wrote:Toobs ?? Not sure I understand .
is the bore dia known for a stock "tube "
thanks mark
IT MAY BE ROUGH LOOKING BUT ITS A FUN RIDE
User avatar
Stig
Site Admin
Site Admin
Posts: 11786
Joined: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:54 am
Location: Searching for my bike

Post by Stig »

It's not the diameter that's the issue. A worn Toobs will wear oval
AKA Bald headed b'stard
User avatar
Teego
More Rabbit Than Sainsbury's
More Rabbit Than Sainsbury's
Posts: 2518
Joined: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:48 am
Location: On the road again. Distance is the drug.

Post by Teego »

Paul, some years ago we did a complete how to with pix for toobs. Can't find it now.
Keep on keepin' on.
Post Reply