stalling

thunder_taz · Post by **thunder_taz** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:55 pm

ok folks. got my ace fighter started today and although it is runnung a bit rough, at least it is runnung.

my probem is that as soon as I change into 1st gear it stalls. I have done a quick and dirty sidestand switch bypass with no effect. the strange thing is that when I try and shift back into neutral I cant get the pedal to move. I have to thumb the starter to make the bike jump forward while applying gentle upward pressure to the pedal to get it back into neutral.

the bike has sat unstarted for a long time but I presume dodgy oil wouldnt cause this sort of problem?

robertcains · Post by **robertcains** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:03 pm

Sounds like stuck clutch plates? Run it up warm & keep activating the clutch to free the plates? In an extreme case u may need to remove them to free them off

robertcains · Post by **robertcains** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:05 pm

Sorry, I meant to say an oil change will very much help this.

thunder_taz · Post by **thunder_taz** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 3:11 pm

the oil change is ths first thing on my list. only problem is that the bike is parked on an upsloping driveway so I may not get all of thd old oil out. I was intenfing to parki it on level ground at the top of the dtive to do the oil change. I was going to do an oil change to flush out the old oil and then do another oil changd a couple of weeks later.

Teego · Post by **Teego** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:49 am

thunder_taz wrote:the oil change is ths first thing on my list. only problem is that the bike is parked on an upsloping driveway so I may not get all of thd old oil out. I was intenfing to parki it on level ground at the top of the dtive to do the oil change. I was going to do an oil change to flush out the old oil and then do another oil changd a couple of weeks later.

You should be fine on that drive. The oil should flow back to the drain hole. Get it nice and warm first.

thunder_taz · Post by **thunder_taz** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:26 am

as per some advice from other forums I have been advisex to ziptie the clutch lever back and leave it there to see if that unsticks them. ii did that yesterday as I cant do thd oil change until tuesday at thd earliest. it is worth a go as I have owt to lose!!!!!!

willandrip · Post by **willandrip** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:42 am

Warm it up so the engine has some grunt.
Wheel up to a wall so the front wheel is touching.
Start the bike and put it in gear and keep the clutch pulled in .
The plates will break free.

I have to do this when pulling bikes from the very back of the garage that have stood for a few years.

thunder_taz · Post by **thunder_taz** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 11:52 am

willandrip wrote:Warm it up so the engine has some grunt.
Wheel up to a wall so the front wheel is touching.
Start the bike and put it in gear and keep the clutch pulled in .
The plates will break free.

I have to do this when pulling bikes from the very back of the garage that have stood for a few years.

i will keep this as plan B if the cable tie trick hasn't worked by Tuesday.

Post by **nuggitt** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:13 pm

That's what I have to do after the long winter months of the bike being in hibernation.

thunder_taz · Post by **thunder_taz** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:01 pm

moving the bike around an upward sloping drive is way too awkward single handed so tomorrow I am going to reverse the car down the drive up against the front wheel and try it that way.

willandrip · Post by **willandrip** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:09 pm

Switch the fuel off.
Run the engine till it wont restart.
Put it in first gear.
Wind it up the hill using the starter motor and brute force.

Don't forget to turn the fuel back on.

Teego · Post by **Teego** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:09 pm

thunder_taz wrote:moving the bike around an upward sloping drive is way too awkward single handed so tomorrow I am going to reverse the car down the drive up against the front wheel and try it that way.

It'll end in tears.

willandrip · Post by **willandrip** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:13 pm

Teego wrote:
thunder_taz wrote:moving the bike around an upward sloping drive is way too awkward single handed so tomorrow I am going to reverse the car down the drive up against the front wheel and try it that way.
It'll end in tears.

Not for the spares dealership !

thunder_taz · Post by **thunder_taz** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:24 pm

i would have to turn the bike around on the driveway as the wall is at the bottom of the drive. then if it doent work I have to try and pull the bike backwards up the slope to turn it around again. I presumed that if I sat on the bike brake at the ready with a breeze block behind tbe back to stop rollback I would be ok.

if I had a nice flat drive I would be as happy as a pig in shit. having said that it is impossible to say how happy i would be with garage!!!!!!!!

thunder_taz · Post by **thunder_taz** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:22 am

ok have got the clutch plates out. when i have separated them do i need to soak em in oil overnight before they go back in or is that only applicable to new clutch plates?