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One of my mates got a turbo off a Saab and asked me to make the necessary bits and fit it on for him, so here are a few pics of the fabrication of it.

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and now he's put the set up on a bandit now as the motor in the gixer wasnt the best of engines.
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might do the fzr next year if i get time :unibrow:
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looks like theres fun to be had there :unibrow: :nod: :D :cool:
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loving the plumbing! :D
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nice work
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Lovely bit of welding there. :nod:
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Where can I get info on turboing a Thunerace -all that was done, pistons,timing, carbs, injection?
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All I know is you can run a t25 turbo without changing pistons and run on low boost, and don't get a turbo off a diesel car make sure its a petrol, if all goes well ill be doing my fzr next year so ill know the full ins and out of it all .
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The engine can take some serious power if you swap the clutch
250 bhp at the wheel will be easy achievable

mine will be done next year (if i dont build it all into a new frame before that).

i know of a blow thru running 280 bhp at the wheel no issues.
spacer plate and different clutch is all thats been done to it.

strip the engine check everything is in good condition.

fit a spacer plate thickness depends on your engines c/r

modify the carbs for boost (stock needles and jets best) wire all the pipes to avoid boost leaks, set float height.

build headers and plenum 38mm ss for headers aluminium box for plenum or sheet if you prefer.

run the stock turbo wastegate or external wasgate if you prefer.

get fuel pump (metro turbo is good) malpassi rising rate fuel regulator.

modify tank to accept a fuel return above fuel level

fit pitot tubes in the up pipe for boost compensation to the float bowls.

and so on theres a bit of work but its easy enough to do.

most important is get the fuelling right, to lean and bye bye pistons.
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Many Thanks!
Was looking at RCtunsit setup, it's best to have heads up on this dont wish to screw things up! Didn't know if I needed to do pistons and rod's too.
who has the clutch?
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dangerousdave wrote:All I know is you can run a t25 turbo without changing pistons and run on low boost, and don't get a turbo off a diesel car make sure its a petrol, if all goes well ill be doing my fzr next year so ill know the full ins and out of it all .
Why not a diesel turbo, what is the difference between that and a petrol turbocharger?
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b10j8438 wrote:Many Thanks!
Was looking at RCtunsit setup, it's best to have heads up on this dont wish to screw things up! Didn't know if I needed to do pistons and rod's too.
who has the clutch?
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gsxr clutch will go in with mods

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dan83590 wrote:
dangerousdave wrote:All I know is you can run a t25 turbo without changing pistons and run on low boost, and don't get a turbo off a diesel car make sure its a petrol, if all goes well ill be doing my fzr next year so ill know the full ins and out of it all .
Why not a diesel turbo, what is the difference between that and a petrol turbocharger?
they are designed to boost alot of air quickly they and dont get as hot as a petrol engine theres been storys of the impellers melting and your constantly overworking the turbo
generaly they max out about 80,000 rpm where as a petrol one will spin alot quicker.

having said that they have been used with success you need to look at the compressor maps to see if its suitable.
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Post by dan83590 »

Mmm.

Turbo are generally smaller on diesels. That is the only difference. Some models of turbocharger are used on both petrol and diesel powered vehicles.

You could happily use a small turbo and run it at low boost. I use a tiny TF035 and it run at a max of 1.0bar boost, and it'll go from zero boost to max boost in no time at all. How much boost does a bike need? I think you should always choose the smallest suitable turbo for the boost you want to achieve.
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Post by dieffe »

Isn't it ace to see someone making things instead of bolting accessories on all over the place. That was a tendancy of my last haunt sadly.
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